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Wednesday, May 17, 2006

Scary

When I see sites like this one, I fear for our childrens' future.

Europe United is the first pan-European party, which works towards United Europe. We serve the needs of an important and fast growing group of people, the pro-Europeans. Our mission is to defend integration and ultimately, advance the establishment of United Europe.
People actually believe in this crap?

13 comments:

Richard said...

YUP!

AntiCitizenOne said...

Only until reality hits. People only beleive this crap during the years of indoctrination in the state teenage-creche system.

O Raio said...

Some people do believe. The people who get benefits from all the money that Brussels is taken from us.
And, of course, to be a member of this party will be a good invitation card to some jobs...

20 said...

Hehehe.
So your proposal for guaranteeing the peace, free trade and movement and economic stability that the EU has given us while reducing its democratic deficit, transparency problems, inefficiencies, inconsistencies and excessively powerful national interest lobbies (I notice you're not a fan of France's in particular), is what?

To kill the institutions of Europe with a few well-timed sarcastic put-downs?

Of course you could always join our site and use our internal democracy and free speech to give us a good dose of reality... okay, now I'm pushing my luck!

Anonymous said...

Well, yes, there are people who still believe in democracy. There are people who still believe that a better Europe and a better world is possible. There are people who still believe that can defeat fascism...

There are still people who are willing to fight for a better world till the end, in order to prevent the nationalists, fascists, neo-nazis etc. of destroying humanity.

There are people that are open-minded and don't want to see Europe transformed into a patchwork of fascist "national" states divided by walls that only merchandise can cross.

These people are not very many but they do exist...

Anonymous said...

What do you fear ecactly? That your children might not become faschists?

Oh, don't worry. There is space for fascism everywhere. Look at the UK for example! We are full!

I hope that my children could actually escpape to the continent and live free there!

Serf said...

So the alternative to a socialist superstate is facism?

True facists are actually few and far between, and they pose no threat to anything.

There are people that are open-minded and don't want to see Europe transformed into a patchwork of fascist "national" states divided by walls that only merchandise can cross.

So in your view, a nation state is automatically fascist?

I am willing to debate with anyone, but those who liberally use the word fascist, obviously would not be interested in a real debate.

Dave J said...

"Well, yes, there are people who still believe in democracy."

You mean like these good folks? Oh, wait, somehow I don't think you do.

Lukas said...

*shrugs* Why not? I'm actually in favour of establishing an English Parliament. In fact, I'm fairly certain that turning the United Kingdom into a federal state is actually the only way to even have a chance of keeping it together in the long run...

AntiCitizenOne said...

Nato guaranteed and guarantees the peace not the pacifists in the mental asylum called the EU!

Anonymous said...

There is a lot of immaturity in this debate. The fact is, a united and democratic Europe as envisaged by Winston Churchill and countless others since is the only way forward. There is only so long we can ride on the dead old Empire's carcass and still expect to be heard in the world of China, India and the US.

We Europeans would have the largest economy in the world, the third-largest country by population and a proper say in the world if we federated.

And many of us do support an English parliament, just I supported devolution for my country: Scotland.

AntiCitizenOne said...

Like I say, the only way to "unite" the disparate peoples of europe, is at the end of the barrel of a gun.

Europe will have an economy resembling Africa with it's current lunatic socialist policies.

Churchil may have wanted a united Europe, but it was not part of a United Kingdom.

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